Discussion in 'Fujifilm X News & Rumors' started by Fred Seaver, Mar 11, 2018.
If that's it, I'm not impressed.
Interesting, thank you.
You can easily compare them on dpreview.com in their comparison tools in the review. Noise from the A9 is pretty horrible. The A7 III noise performance is very, very good. Much better than current x-trans in my opinion.
I had an A7 III here for a while and the overall performance is incredibly impressive. Low light video especially, low light photos as well, ease of post-processing raw files in Lightroom is way ahead of what I have to do for my Fuji files to get results I like (at least for landscape photography, I didn't do much portraits during that time) and if you pick carefully, the lenses are reasonable in size and incredible in quality. Although more expensive than Fujinons. Oh, and the autofocus isn't even in the same universe as the Fujis. It's just plain a non-issue anymore, even compared to my 5D IV. I know that people here like to whistle in the dark, but Sony has pulled off something incredibly impressive.
But everything comes with a few downsides: the handling and just plain usability of the A7 III is still terrible. The menu is bloated and badly organized, the camera layout getting better but still suboptimal, the ergonomics okay but significantly behind an X-T2 or X-H1, the feel of the camera is pretty good, but it still doesn't feel as solid as even a Fuji, which is still a far cry from a Nikon or Canon Pro body.
Right now I'm still debating switching to Sony and just getting used to the crappy interface. Staying on Fuji feels a bit like staying with a Mac in the times of Mac OS 8 or 9. You stay for nostalgic and some usability and possibly, in certain cases, productivity reasons, but are so far behind the technical curve it literally feels embarrassaing ...
Just wait a little, and Fuji will pull out something really nice.
I'm myself very impressed with A7III performance, but I still do not let myself into Sony experience. Never again.
I thnk that you have hit the nail on the head. The Sony is nothing less than staggeringly good technically but I will bet that most people here bought the Fuji's because they liked the usability of the cameras, I did.
I bought the Fuji because I wanted the manual shutter control and aperature control without having to dig through menus. The quality of the photo's is for me good enough. However I have been a lot of comments by landscape photographers that they do not like the way Fuji renders landscapes and they prefer Canon or Nikon. LR is simply awful with Fuji X-Trans and I suspect that Fuji woudl be more appealing for a much bigger audiance if they switched sensors. fuji are a much nicer company than Sony to their customers and I think that they understand photography better but I thin that x-trans will have to go.
To me the X-trans is like a replay of Steve Jobs trying to convince the public that the PowerPC chip was better than Intel. Well he made a good case for a number of year but in the end he was forced to change and when he did sales exploded. This I think is what will hapen to Fuji if they switch sensor technology. I think that many professionals have given Fuji a try and have backed away because of the technology.
Can't see it really being for me as a X-Pro2 user, but always interested in the latest technology which will drip down the line at a later date.
My daughter is going to Photokina for a couple of days, will ask her to give it the once over if its out by then.
Removed, it was a bad joke.
Ken doesn't babble!
- The X-T3 will be 'Made In China'
In regards to an upcoming X-T3 rumors.... Fuji please listen:
Huge huge fan of Fuji here. Got almost all Fuji bodies since the X-T1 first released. Got almost all Fuji lenses lineup. More than happy to pay a little more money for X-T3 if it was made in Japan. All my current bodies & lenses are made in Japan (2-Xt1s, 2-Xt2s, Xpro2, Xe2, 2-X100fs, 2-Xh1s....).
Nothing personal. If T3 is not from Japan, I'm out.
How's China looking today, like one big globe size adjusted factory?
Price correction? Right now Fuji pricing have made it almost impossible to sell a used XT2 for a reasonable price. It seems Fuji is looking to sell out existing inventory. Current pricing will probably remain until XT2 is released. On trades dealers normally give 50% of retail value. The XT2 has gone from $800 to much less.
That may prevent many existing X-T2 users from upgrading to X-T3, and wait for a more significant hardware upgrade in perhaps X-T4.
The more models of X cameras that Fuji comes out with (-3 and -4) the X-T2 resale price will go lower and lower as it will also drop the more years that go by.
A seller is kinda damned if he sells now and damned if he waits 2 or 3 more years to upgrade. So, it shouldn’t prevent anyone from upgrading now.
Why sell it? I keep my beautiful X-T1 silver graphite for its sensor, and . . . looks. It renders images nicer, than X-T2, which I'll never buy.
Markets ebb and flow. I think the X-T2 will become a classic kind of like the Nikon D3s, D4, and D700. Once new inventory is gone, the resale value may go up once the X-T3 has been out for awhile. Those that get into the Fuji ecosystem with the X-T3 may be looking for a backup body and the X-t2 may be that camera. Of course strictly speculating. I wouldn't count on that happening.
One of the appeals of Fuji is if you have some disposable income you can almost have a camera per lens. A used $500 Fuji x-t2 may be tempting for many people.
Only a few years ago, reviewers were all over the X-T1 indeed. For me, as an amateur, that's still more than enough camera. As long as it keeps working, I'm a happy user.
So the X-T3 is being rumored to sell when released for less than the X-T2 retail. Hmm. I wonder how US tariffs on Chinese goods will affect the pricing of this MIC camera in the United States. With a 25% tariff on a $1,500 retail camera it would cost $1,875 if Fuji, Fuji USA and dealers kept their same margins. The grey market would/could be huge.
This would send me back to the X-T2 at current discounts in a heartbeat.
The X-T1 and X-T2 were manufactured in Japan I would Expect the X-T3 to be manufactured the same.
Its old news that its being made in China....Cost cutting due to the A7iii setting that standard at that price.